Sunday, August 4, 2013

POOLS POOLS POOLS!

We all agree that the Fairways has some of the nicest pools in East Orange County. Our residents are not the only folks that share this opinion. Cases in point,---Friday evening,Fairways Watch received a call around 6;15 pm. The caller advised that there was an old car with out of state plates,and 2 young adults at the Greenbrier pool area. The caller went on to say that a ,large young,white male was wearing a GPS ankle monitor. We went to the Greenbrier ,and saw the car as described. In the pool area was a young ,white female and a large ,young white male.  I asked for pool passes,--the female complied,she lives with her grand parents and is registered to live here.The male did not have a pool pass, and was wearing a law enforcement type ankle Gps bracelet on his right leg. I inquired, as to the reason for the GPS. He replied that it was not my business,--he was informed that it was my business. I inquired again,--he said that his attorney said that he did not have to say and then said ''there are places that he was not supposed to go'' At that point I told them that I was calling the sheriff, and he could explain his situation to them . 911 was called, there was a small delay, due to a homicide manhunt in the Econ area.The logic was simple,--law enforcement does not require GPS monitoring for traffic tickets. An officer arrived in an unmarked SUV. The young male was questioned and a computer background check was run . There were no outstanding warrants, and the person in question was in compliance with any court orders that were in place.--As always, I would rather be safe than sorry.
   Case in point #2--Saturday afternoon, shortly after 1pm Fairways Watch ,received a call from Ed Dow the Maint manager. Ed had received a call from the pro shop. There was a complaint about ''disruptive guests'' at the Greenbrier. [for more a more descriptive comment, check Paul Horvat s blog under Valeries comment on his current post] Fairways Watch, went to the Greenbrier--it is best described as ''PANDEMONIUM'' There were 8--10 people of all ages. --They had literally taken over OUR beautiful pool . Ages ranged from 6 months to 50+ There were kids with big water pistols, large inflatables ,candy wrappers in the pool. --you name the rule violation ,and it was there! 
   I went to one of the older females ,and politely asked, are you a guest or resident? --she replied that they were visiting her uncle!!! I asked where her uncle lived , I received no definitive answer. Next I asked for pool passes.---THEY HAD NO POOL PASSES. I informed them that they had to leave. After some ''grumbling'' and other comments, they started gathering up their large amount of personal belongings. I went up and sat on the porch, until they left, headed toward the gate.
   Afterward, I consulted with an Orange County Deputy. The question I asked was this.--- WERE THESE PEOPLE LEGALLY TRESPASSING ?---YES --IF there is proper signage in place and are told to leave by a ''property representative.''
  Early this AM ,I checked the signage ,at each of our pools. I could only find one sign, referring to ''POOL PASSES REQUIRED'' and that was at the Westchester. The other pool signage, makes references to ''bracelets and badges'' ???
   Fairways Watch, will ask HTA to install some new pool gate signs that will legally comply to the trespass statutes. We need signage that plainly states  ''ENTERING THIS POOL AREA WITHOUT A POOL PASS IS TRESPASSING''
   Please be advised that Fairways Watch is not a ''pool monitor'', however we will respond to a security issue, or a disruptive safety issue. We will not get involved in disputes between residents for offensive language or drinking complaints.
  The 2 pictures below demonstrate the contrast of the Fairways ''liberal'' approach and that of a retirement community over in Port ORANGE. The picture s represent 2 extremes. We do not need the rules from Port Orange.--Just some ''good ole common sense''

5 comments:

Paul Horvat said...

Bill raises some excellent points folks... and HTA. He is not the pool monitor yet he volunteers and successfully resolves these many issues with not only the pools but also our entire community. He needs the tools to do his job effectively. He needs HTA to provide signage that allows him to remove these people and also deter their presence in our community. We also need to support Bill by letting HTA know that we need and want Bill for his great volunteer work. Just think, if Bill didn't take care of these two incidents who would have? And more importantly, who will. Let's all give Bill and his volunteers our full support. You're doing a fantastic job Bill and we stand behind you!

Anonymous said...

All agree that the pools are the responsibility of HTA, yet they fail to act. Maybe they should consider what kind of legal action they will have if god forbid someone gets hurt at one of the pools, say an outsider, and no pool monitor is provided. Fact is what good are pool rules if there is no enforcement. In my experience most all Fairways resident respect the rules and are well behaved while using the facilities, because we live here and we pay for it. They outsiders on the other hand could care less. I dont frequent the Greenbrier often but on one occasion not so long ago my wife and i went to check it out and were greeted with a mess of chocolate cake dirty paper plates and trash left at one of the front tables, more than likely by children left unsupervised and not park residents. I wont speculate but I would not think a resident would leave a mess like that. The intruders seem to frequent the Greenbrier and Westchester because they are off the beaten path and they wont be noticed so much. From what I have read the pool problem goes on all the time but seems to be alot worse in the summer when the outsiders want to bring kids somewhere to swim FOR FREE! Bill you are doing a great job, and I hope that at some point HTA will Get it!!! WE NEED POOL MONITORS AND PARK SECURITY 24/7. ITS THAT SIMPLE. We all pay enough for lot rents and HTA should resolve these issues and stop dodging them. DO THE RIGHT THING HTA!!!

Biker Girl said...

Thank you Bill for what you do for all of us residents at the Fairways! I totally agree with Mr. Horvat...if Bill didn't take care of these incidents, who would have? If we want to live in a "premier" adult community, then it will take all of us to make sure it maintains that standard. We are all responsible for making sure our community stays safe and well maintained. I, for one, will make it a point to ask more questions of suspicious persons...or of course, notify the proper person or authorities. I guess the best advice is "don't assume people are here legally"! Take action if necessary! Thanks again Bill for watching out for all of us!

Valerie said...

I wish more residents would show more concern about who is enjoying our pools instead of sitting idly by just watching. Just inquire somehow to someone if your not sure they belong here. I for one sure do and will continue to do so.

Unknown said...

In the past few weeks ,there has been attention, directed at the pools by both management and concerned residents.This attention seems to have generated numerous rumors, regarding our pools. It has been observed that HTA installed some new security signs, at the pools during the past week. These new signs are welcome Fairways Watch will not post any comments or posts relating to rumors. There are other venues for that purpose.